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Wiz Wars: The Return of the Potter

spoilery meat!

So dafstar commented to me that Dumbledore getting killed by someone he trusted (and was trying to call on to help him) right after telling Draco about the possibility of faking his death to escape is perhaps a bit too coincidental.

I think Dumbledore really is dead. Why? I wouldn't be surprised if there was a plan but it all went wrong.

Faked-death-gone-wrong scenario one: Snape and Dumbledore had planned to fake Dumbledore's death, but the Unbreakable vow made Snape actually kill him. Dumbledore didn't see this coming until Snape walked in the room and it was too late. Between this and Potter's presence, Snape cracked.

Faked-death-gone-wrong scenario two: Snape and Dumbledore had planned to fake Dumbledore's death, only Snape was going to really go through with it when the time came. Dumbledore didn't see this coming until Snape walked in the room and it was obvious.


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Jul. 19th, 2005 06:13 pm (UTC)
and yet...
We never hear of Madam Pomfrey, or any other "authority" in the medical arts, actually checking the body. Everyone just seems to assume that Dumbledor is dead. And there was the mention of the phoenix when the marble was materializing for his tomb.
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:26 pm (UTC)
Re: and yet...
I'm guessing that Fawkes mourning is something that couldn't be faked.
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:34 pm (UTC)
Re: and yet...
Good point. I am still remaining skeptical until the next book. Upon further ponderance, I am thinking his portrait in the headmaster/mistresses office is likely to be more of a cementing factor.
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:45 pm (UTC)
Re: and yet...
Well, a conspiracy to fake Dumbledore's death would have to be rather colossal, so the portrait could be a diversion, but I expect that it's something that just appears on a headmaster's death, not something that a servant or house-elf comes in to hang.
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:40 pm (UTC)
Re: and yet...
There's also the Unbreakable Vow in action.

Snape threw an Avada Kedavra at Dumbledore. So far, nobody has ever survived that curse except Harry. Dumbledore didn't have any physical objects to throw in the way, he didn't have Fawkes to block for him, and he didn't have his wand. I don't see any way of him getting out of it.

If Draco's task was to kill Dumbledore (pretty high chance) and the Unbreakable Vow made Snape take on the task, I don't think Snape could have faked it either. There's always the chance of a loophole, but I didn't see much of one.

Unbreakable Vow + Avada Kedavra + wand-less Dumbledore = dead
Jul. 19th, 2005 06:42 pm (UTC)
Snape and Dumbledore are very powerful Legilimens and I'll bet Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him and silently told him why. Dumbledore knew he was going to die. Snape also very likely knew- being said Legilimens- that Harry Potter was in the room, hiding. Snape had to look good to Draco (as well as the other Death Eaters), protect Draco (because of the Vow), and secure his place in Voldemort's circle (by retreating with the other Death Eaters). I sincerely doubt Dumbledore was oblivious to the wardrobe Draco was using to get the Death Eaters into Hogwarts. That man knew far much more than he ever let on, all in the name of keeping Harry protected long enough to allow the boy to gain the strength he will need to one day get rid of Voldemort- however that winds up happening.
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