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Ordered a new battery for the R75/5 (in the background). Finally.

Watched a bit of LJ drama from the sidelines. I'd link it but the drama itself was deleted to protect the guilty and side-discussion is friends-locked.

Watched a bit of convention drama (again, the discussion is friends-locked) from the sidelines. A convention in another time-zone that shall remain nameless just had a minor implosion on one of its web boards because a pair of folks decided that the convention wasn't doing enough to be "kid friendly" or "family friendly."

This kind of started with the head of the children's programming track asking for ideas for next year and quickly devolved into a few folks whining about how their needs as parents not being met was the reason the con is shrinking.

Now I know some of you with kids are probably less than happy with how I phrased that, but let me give you a bit of context.

One of the parties was stridently lamenting how with her children she and her husband can't have the same sort of con experience they did before the kids. Having parent-supervised kidspace wasn't an acceptable answer. "What if my husband and I both want to go to two different panels at the same time? We can't do that!" It's the con's responsibility to make this possible again by providing babysitting or daycare.

It's not so much a parenting issue as a "the world owes us" situation. As Susan Sto Helit said "Sometimes I wish there was a test before people were allowed to have children... well at least besides the practical." Raising children requires compromises of time, budget and lifestyle, and the fact that someone has a second or third child without ever accepting that is really scary.

Then again, there are a lot of consumer-fans without kids would rather beat their heads in vain against reality than learn to live in it...

Comments

twjudy
Feb. 1st, 2005 08:44 pm (UTC)
Raising children requires compromises of time, budget and lifestyle,

Exactly. But apparently, I'm not allowed to have an opinion, because people without kids are "selfish" and therefore undeserving of any special consideration that parents apparently are required to be treated with.

Not that I'm pissy about this or anything. /sarcasm
didjiman
Feb. 1st, 2005 11:16 pm (UTC)
Bwahahahahahaha, since we had kidz, we pretty much gave up on attending panels! Being a parent is our choice, and we certainly don't expect other people to change everything for our choices. We were so grateful that some conventions such as Consonance had wonderful children's room so we could relax just a bit. It comes back to social entitlement - why do some people think that other people owe them for whatever choices they make? It would be nice to accomodate, but it is a privilege, not a right.
bovil
Feb. 2nd, 2005 12:07 am (UTC)
I know adults who can't sit through panels...
karisu_sama
Feb. 2nd, 2005 12:33 am (UTC)
My dear, of COURSE you are allowed an opinion, and of course you may run it by me, parent though I am.

I personally detest people who have a sense of "the world owes me", whether it's because they have kids and expect everyone to cater to them because of it, or they are trust fund brats, or what have you.

Every con we went to where there WAS something kind of kid care or programming - well, great! But never did we EXPECT it to exist. It was just serendipity if it did. We got very used to skipping panels :(, leaving panels early, taking turns on kid-duty while the other one got to go to panels.... Our kids, our responsibility; we only hoped for s few simple things like booster seats in reataurants, and if they didn't have one, we always had one in the trunk of our car.

And I certainly left panels if my kids started acting up. I can't impose my small children on everyone else who is there to payattention to speakers, not a whining child.

And I still have to take care of kids, albeit older ones. So, I can't run off gleefully with you guys to cosplay Easterlings or such anytime I want. But I made my choice, and I know some freedoms I temporarily put aside will just have to wait until they are grown.

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