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It is to laugh...

So I doubt that any of you have been following the "Venom Cock" wars, and if you haven't, apparently denial is a river running through Colleen Lindsay's office at DelRey/Ballantine.

Ms. Lindsay has worked herself up into a happy fluffy bunny lather, imagining all sorts of "facts" to support her defense of the poor, defenseless author of "Touched By Venom."

"However, I have read the review copy of the book, quite recently, in fact, and the phrase “venom cock” does not appear anywhere in the book." John Joseph Adams, the reviewer who trashed the book published the excerpt from the RoC sampler where "venom cock" appears. It's all over the book.

Now that's just a stupid mistake. You could read a book and not remember that the phrase "venom cock" is scattered throughout. Right?

I really don't care, other than from the perspective of a Roman at the gladiatorial games, watching poor sods get butchered from the sidelines. I'm tired about "edgy" books about sexuality and literary themes dolled up as S/M porn. I'm not this book's target market.

What really gets me, though?

"World Con doesn't really count. It's a trade show, more or less, like BEA, and it exists so that editors, agents and authors can meet one another and do business." I don't know what WorldCon she's been going to, but it's not the ones I've been at.

Clueless fans spreading misinformation about WorldCon do enough harm. Now we've got clueless professionals doing the same. Maybe she needs to ask some of those authors she's name-dropping what they think of WorldCon.


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Nov. 15th, 2005 08:02 pm (UTC)
You're the first I've seen of it.

And that got published???

Jesus fuck, I'm keeping my light under a bushel.
Nov. 15th, 2005 08:24 pm (UTC)
Well, unless you've been watching the World Fantasy Con reports, you wouldn't have heard about it.

Watching people get irate about the incident has been amusing.
Nov. 15th, 2005 08:43 pm (UTC)
Looks like it.

And "Worldcon is a trade show?" I think we have found proof of parallel universes.
Nov. 15th, 2005 10:41 pm (UTC)
There are a bunch of parallel Worldcons out there, and sometimes people lose sight of the fact that the other ones are going on, like, say, the 150 or so of us who attend the WSFS Business Meeting, although at least we can point out that we're one of the few things that must happen. :)
Nov. 16th, 2005 12:41 pm (UTC)
We've both been doing WorldCon long enough to have experienced most of it (of course, it probably took nearly 2 decades of attending).

I just think it's funny that she denies the whole official schedule of the convention in her view of WorldCon.
Nov. 16th, 2005 01:05 am (UTC)
Worldcon = a TRADE SHOW??? WTF??

Sorry; Anime Expo more legitimately qualifies for that lable, and is even run by paid staff, not volunteers. San Diego Comic Con is absolutely blatant as to its "trade show" status. But I've been attended several Worldcons since Chicon IV, and Worldcon is simply not a trade show. Loads of fun by fans and for fans - what is this junk about it existing for pro get-togethers? I see loads and loads and loads of fans, and only see the pros partying with their fans...
Nov. 16th, 2005 11:10 am (UTC)
Colleen Lindsay is a pusher
If you read her assorted posts, here is her professed modus operandi:

Go to a conference where there are non-fans.

Give them free books (Go on, try it! the first one is free!) in hopes that they will like it and buy more books.

This pretty much fits the classic behavior of a pusher.

(Once they are doing that, of course, they are now fans, and no longer worth her attention. )

OF COURSE she doesn't care about WorldCon. The people there are already addicted.
Nov. 16th, 2005 11:28 am (UTC)
Hooray for fannish drama! :D
Nov. 16th, 2005 12:38 pm (UTC)
It's not fannish drama. It's publishing industry drama.

This is how it goes:
  1. RoC Publishing gives away a sampler containing a chapter of Jeanine Cross' Touched by Venom at this year's World Fantasy Convention
  2. WFC is primarily a professional fantasy writers and editors conference, and the writers, editors and reviewers read said excerpt
  3. The excerpt is so hideously bad that it became the subject of impromptu "readings" ala The Eye of Argon all over the convention
  4. Cheryl Morgan reports this in her Emerald City Blog
  5. Colleen Lindsay, Assistant Director of Publicity, Ballantine/Del Ray (her sig says this) disputes the presence of the phrase "venom cock" in the novel, which she's read, and dismisses WFC as a "small con" frequented by nobodies
  6. John Joseph Adams, reviewer for Kirkus Reviews (and colloquially known as "The Slush God") points out that she's wrong, and it's right there on page 8, making her look like a fool
  7. Other writers pipe up about how WFC was almost 900 people this year, and that it's for the most part a professional conference
  8. Colleen says anything that's under 10,000 people doesn't count in her book, except for WorldCon... (well, you read the quote)
Nov. 16th, 2005 02:23 pm (UTC)
I caught most of that, but thanks for the synopsis. Huh. Funny how WFC and WC are "industry events" when they want to push something, but a "fan event" when they don't.
Nov. 16th, 2005 02:30 pm (UTC)
World Fantasy and World Horror are very definitely professional writers' conferences. There is no fan-focused programming. There are no fan-focused events. These are events for writers, agents, editors and publishers to get together and network. If you know a lot of writers, as a fan you can have fun at either. If you don't, there's not a lot of fanac to keep you busy.

I may go to World Horror this spring; it's in San Francisco, Clive Barker is GoH and Kevin Murphy says that we would enjoy the party scene there. Haven't really decided, though, if I'm going to.

WorldCon is WorldCon. It's never been a professional conference, although quite a bit of business does take place behind closed doors.
Nov. 16th, 2005 02:36 pm (UTC)
Well, you get my point.

And if you see Barker, ask him why he won't be the frickin' GoH at a Gaylaxicon for cryin' in a bucket!
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