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What is this cosplay?

From a friend who was in the Nippon2007 (Yokohama Worldcon) masquerade:

The Japanese contestants were confused by the American way of doing things. Apparently, they don’t do skits and the audience usually gets to inspect the costuming up close.

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semy_of_pearls
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:03 pm (UTC)
Thank the maker for that!

Cosplay is just.... alien to me. The one Anime con I attended, I dressed up in my Jurai Noble (from Tenchi Muyo) which is about four layers, all detailed. I was not even considered worth going up on stage because I didn't have a skit that either involved dance or lesbians.

Siiigh. And the quality of some of their stage costumes, not to mention the skits borders on appalling.
bovil
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:43 pm (UTC)
We're also talking (for the most part) American F&SF costumers, not American cosplayers. If they're baffled about our sorts of presentations, I would love to see their reaction to cosplayers who think they're doing things the Japanese way.
sarcasm_hime
Sep. 24th, 2007 04:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I also find that hilarious. Acting out the character in a skit is SOOOOOO much more authentically Japanese!
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kaijugal
Sep. 24th, 2007 04:56 pm (UTC)

"I was not even considered worth going up on stage because I didn't have a skit that either involved dance or lesbians."

XD Har!! This makes me alternately laugh and weep.
howeird
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:14 pm (UTC)
Gotta admit that I like the Japanese way far better, skits have no place in a costume contest. Hold on while I change feet - Masquerade is the wrong word, IMHO. Historically a masquerade is a dance and/or party where people dress in costumes and wear a mask as a mandatory costume item. I'd just call it a costume contest and exhibition.
kproche
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:22 pm (UTC)
We are aware of this semantic difficulty. Andy's written about it, in fact.

Unfortunately, it is a term well-established in fannish tradition.
marquesate
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
But isn't it dead boring to just go up, stand around, have a costume loked at and saunter off again?
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bovil
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:35 pm (UTC)
The term "masquerade" has been around since the dawn of fandom. The earliest convention masquerades (Worldcon 1940 is the first I've seen record of) were costume dances, although they did feature awards for "best costume" and such. The modern convention masquerade is 60 years of evolution from that beginning. I'd have to talk to Karen Anderson, but I believe that the presentation-style masquerade had already come about in the late 50's.
howeird
Sep. 21st, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
Thanks - Sounds about right for fandom: the event morphs but the name doesn't. :-)
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helix90
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:34 pm (UTC)
The masquerade debrief at Nippon 2007 was very strange, since the whole thing was translated between the two languages.

I found the idea that the audience would come up and inspect the costumes almost as much of a shock as the idea of no skit.

bovil
Sep. 21st, 2007 07:38 pm (UTC)
I just find it hysterical in the context of western cosplayers for whom it's all about the skit, sometimes to the degree that caring too much about the quality of your costume and your work is "elitist."
holczer13
Sep. 22nd, 2007 12:25 am (UTC)
I find the idea of this kinda cool. I am a serious newbie to costuming, but went to the last 2 costume cons. My favorite part is being able to take pictures, close up, of the costumes, and admire everyone's amazing and fabulous work. I have learned so much about sewing, some of it just from seeing how 'experts' make some of these fabulous clothes.
didjiman
Sep. 21st, 2007 08:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, just like most American ARE really too loud in Japan, you have some who claim ALL Japanese are nice are quiet...... riiiiiiiiggght! Especially if you find them in a party after one drink :-)

Of course those cosplayers are probably the same one who said Harry Potter etc. are not cosplay *roll eyes*
bovil
Sep. 21st, 2007 08:12 pm (UTC)
Wrong way around... it's the American cosplayers who complain that Harry Potter isn't cosplay. I've never heard a Japanese cosplayer complain about Harry Potter.
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