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So for those of you who haven't been watching the argument on ICG-D...

karisu_sama wrote up a detailed report of her experiences judging the L.A.con IV masquerade, and her dissatisfaction with the process.

The MD got a bit cranky about it.

I thought this was bad:
She is unhappy and so am I and I'm sorry she got confused. I take full blame for it as MD. But I do wish she would stop manufacturing things and posting them here and on her blog. It is not professional, not nice, and above all, wrong to print false things. Karisu, I appreciate you showing up and wanting to do a good job, and thank you for that, but you need to relax, step back, and see there was no conspiracy against you.

So accusing someone of fabricating their report, bad enough?

I was right, and yet I was wrong. Martin doesn't seem to be able to argue on points, so he makes a reach...
I have been participating and helping at Masquerades for probably longer than you have been alive

Now I know it's not proper to talk about a lady's age, but...

No.

Reaching.

Reaching bad.

And incorrect.

Karen Anderson, sure. Bjo Trimble, sure. Janet Wilson Anderson, possibly. (I've seen the pictures with the dates on them).

Martin Jaquish? No.

Watch the credibility fall into the crapper.

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hoshikage
Sep. 1st, 2006 06:30 am (UTC)
I saw that and my jaw dropped. And then I told my husband, "In the words of the Internet, OH NO HE DIDN'T!" I mean, playing both the "longer than you've been alive" card (incorrectly to boot) AND the "Well I'm not going to read this thread anymore" card in the same post? Good grief, this is ridiculous! O_o
bovil
Sep. 1st, 2006 06:33 am (UTC)
Actually, "Oh no he didn't!" is a panto thing, only late to the internet.

But yeah. "Ass much?"

I was expecting Richard Hill to lay some smackdown on him for that, but Chris got to it first.
hoshikage
Sep. 1st, 2006 06:38 am (UTC)
My apologies. I guess I'm too young (or more likely, too pop-culture-inhibited) to know better. I didn't even know about it on the Internet until recently either. ^^;

I am just stunned that he kept pushing and pushing on this, really. I mean, I've said some stupid things on the Internet, and probably even on the ICG list. But I didn't keep digging my own grave and then say "I'm not listening anymore, lalalalalala!" when it became apparent that people didn't agree with me...
bovil
Sep. 1st, 2006 06:51 am (UTC)
Oh, if you ever get a chance to see panto, it's a hoot. It's a uniquely English version of melodrama that involves aged women played by men in huge fake breasts ("dame" characters), horses played by two people in a horse suit, some characters as papier maché heads sitting on top of the actors head... it's completely cheesy, and absurd.

It also involves the classic audience call-response:
Audience: "He's right behind you"
Actor: "Oh no he isn't!"
"Oh yes he is!"
"Oh no he isn't"
or other similar exchanges.

I wasn't exposed to panto until a few years ago (other than the old Monty Python references to "pantomime horse" and "pantomime Princess Margaret") but I've run into it more in recent years.

Now you've got me thinking of panto versions of popular movies. Lord of the Rings and Moulin Rouge spring to mind immediately.
hoshikage
Sep. 1st, 2006 07:03 am (UTC)
Would Sauron get to be one of the papier-mache heads with a giant eye painted on it, then? ;)
didjiman
Sep. 1st, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
So now not only did we go to different conventions, we live different planets? :-)

May be he's one of the ex-Pluton and hence be grumpy
karisu_sama
Sep. 1st, 2006 09:03 am (UTC)
"Gee, he looks darned good for a dude of 65 or so......"
duae
Sep. 1st, 2006 12:32 pm (UTC)
Sadly this story, while amusing, is not shocking in the least. I lost my faith in con stuff years ago. Lets see... first there was an anime music video where the song was very very repetative, so the guy took roughly 5 clips that lipsynched and then just repeted them for the whole song and won first place. When I went to complain I was told I didn't understand the true meaning behind the song and the artist meant for it to be like that so it was really a very awsome video.

Then I saw three fat guys in white t-shirts with powerpuff bodies scribbled on them and paper plate masks with powerpuff girl faces drawn on them take Best Male Costume. And then a Final Fantasy group take Best Manga.

After that, I refuse to put any time and effort into costume contests.
aramintamd
Sep. 1st, 2006 12:48 pm (UTC)
I've been reading the thread with the D key. The only thing worse than post-con griping is post-con griping when you haven't been at the con in the first place.

Hoping the whole thread dies in the next 48 hours, or it's going to be a VERY long weekend!
karisu_sama
Sep. 2nd, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
Hoping the whole thread dies in the next 48 hours, or it's going to be a VERY long weekend!

Oh gods, yes. PLEASE. We're having a PARTY this weekend, to celebrate Mid-Autumn Festival. No more nonsense! :)

My 'faux pas' was being the first person to post online what everyone I had spoken to was already saying. I was just trying to give an analysis of the "oops" parts, not accuse anyone, but everyone gets oh-so-defensive.

Now I am Ensign Karisu; beams down to the planet in Scene 3, Episode 42, last appears onscreen in Scene 5, Epsode 42:

"Red, the color of my shirt... Black, the target painted on..." XD
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