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Anybody have access to the date of Grand Duke Ivan III of Moscow's funeral? He died on October 27, 1505 (which is a date I can use), but it would be great to have the date of his funeral.

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finickynarcane
Jun. 24th, 2006 08:13 pm (UTC)
The really adorable colleague of mine is Russian. If I remember, I'll ask him if he knows or can find out.
unsee1ie
Jun. 24th, 2006 08:18 pm (UTC)
Scourge of the Mongols! o_o?
For terribly personal fangirly reasons I wish like mad I knew. I'm going to poke around a bit & report back if I turn anything up.
yourbob
Jun. 25th, 2006 02:03 am (UTC)
a history book on Russia written in 1557. Don't know if it's got the info, though.

In case the link doesn't work - you can get there from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_Moscoviticarum_Commentarii
bovil
Jun. 25th, 2006 04:48 am (UTC)
Yeah, it's almost unreadable. There's 175 or so pages of introduction by the translator before you even get to the author's introduction (a merciful 10 or so pages).

There is an index at the end of vol2 of the English translation, but only bare mention of Ivan III's death. When it does, it cites his death as 1506, but that could be due to calendar irregularities, or it could just be wrong. All other sources I found cite 1505.
yourbob
Jun. 25th, 2006 05:10 am (UTC)
Ah Ha?
"It is the Russian Orthodox Christian practice to have a memorial service on the fortieth day of anyone who reposed in the Lord our God"

http://www.serfes.org/royal/romanovpretenders.htm
bovil
Jun. 25th, 2006 05:27 am (UTC)
Re: Ah Ha?
Well, that complicates things a touch. Keeping a body around for 40 days in 16th century Russia (even with an October death) isn't likely, so if the practice of memorial service 40 days after death (or the confirmation of death) was the practice at the time, it's probably not the date that Ivan III was buried.
yourbob
Jun. 25th, 2006 04:20 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah Ha?
No, but at the time I didn't realize it was for coffin liquor. For that - no clue. Though...you could use that 40s as background - first tasting?
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